it obscures the fact of how wealthy the unions are. from the city journal article, in the last decade, the teachers unions spent more on politics in the last decade than the oil industry and the pharmaceutical industry and the tobacco industry combined. >> greta: don't they worry with the bad situation economically in california, and they're in a really tough situation, don't you think they worry that in 2011 they were 5400 who have pensions of over $100,000, if you look at the numbers and everything else that's going on in the state, i mean, it is in such deep trouble, wouldn't you think they would be terrified that they're running people out of the state and losing any tax base? of course, they did just recently vote to raise taxes. >> look at what happened in wisconsin. it's not as if public sector unions said oh, gosh, we should just take these reforms and not roprotest. it was a fight to the death in wisconsin. >> greta: even that was a push. a negotiated settlement where it works with both sides is the best way to do it. >> that'